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                    <text>Transcript for Oral History Interview
Conducted for University of Maryland Course IMMR 400 – Spring 2020
Instructor: Dr. Robert Chiles
Interviewers’ (Student’s) name: Elvira Nnodim
Interviewee’s name: Ana Saravia
Interviewee’s Country of Origin: El Salvador
Interviewee’s Current Resident: Hyattsville, Maryland, 20783
Date of Interview: April 24th, 2020
Place of Interview: Prince George’s County, Maryland, U.S.A.

Introduction: This interview between Elvira Nnodim and Ana Saravia explores her experience
as an immigrant from El Salvador. Ana speaks about the stark contrast of her life here in
America compared to that of El Salvador. In her native country, she really couldn’t pursue
education like she wanted to and also was not given much guidance by the people close to her.
Here in America, she is grateful that there are many ways to advance yourself and that there is
lots of support for women who have fallen on hard times or need help. She’s grateful that she is
allowed to be independent in America and achieve her goals without the help of a man.
This interview includes Yocelin, Ana’s daughter, who translates from Spanish to English
for Ana and Elvira. The transcript is not written verbatim, but rather it is a summation of
what Ana says to Yocelin and Elvira.
Keywords: El Salvador, green card, support, assimilation, culture, education, dreams, customs

Elvira: Alright, hi, good evening.
Yocelin [translator]: Hello?
Elvira: Yeah. Hi Yocelin’s mom, good evening.

�Ana: Good evening.
[redacted information]
Elvira: Okay, so I’m gonna start off with the first question. Um and the first question is: when
and where were you born?
Ana: I was born in El Salvador February 6th, 1970.
Elvira: Wow! My mom was also born in 1970. She’s gonna be 50 in December!
Yocelin: Yeah! That’s true, she’s 49.
Elvira: Wow, that’s really cool.
Yocelin: It is.
Elvira: Alright, um the next question is: what was life like for you growing up there? Like your
family life, schooling, or the community that you grew up in?
Ana: I was raised in a very naïve and foreign country. I was living aimlessly with no vision of
the future.
Elvira: Okay um, the—
Ana: Without goals, just living, basically just existing.
Elvira: Mm-hm. Okay um, what was your fondest memories growing up and why?
Ana: My experience back at home was not good. I was raised without education, without values,
without principles, and just living to help my mom.
Elvira: Mm-hm.
Ana: I was unable to succeed in my education or academically because the school was very far
from where I lived and it would take an hour or two hours away, and I would have to go by foot.
And that was one of my excuses of why I was unable to attend school. I also got bullied at school
because I used to wear a veil and my classmates used to pull on it and make fun of me. So, that is
why I was unable to finish my education.
Elvira: Oh my god, I feel so bad.
Yocelin: Yeah, me too honestly, but it’s okay, she’s strong.
Elvira: Mm-hm.

�Yocelin: She’s—yeah.
Elvira: Okay, um the next question is when did you move to the United States and how old were
you when this happened?
Ana: I migrated to the States around 1994-1995 and I was 23.
Elvira: Okay. Alright, um number five: did you have any preconceived notions about America
before you came here?
Ana: I had an idea that coming to the States you’re able to get a better opportunity or a second
chance in life but I didn’t take advantage of that opportunity.
Elvira: Gotcha, okay um. Number si—
Does she have more to add? She can also—
Ana: The first thing I did was get pregnant with you [Yocelin].
Elvira: Oh my god.
[redacted]
Elvira: Okay, so number six: can you describe for me like your experience of coming to
America and what made you want to stay here?
Ana: I decided to stay here because this is where I had all my children and I knew back home
there weren’t better opportunities for me or my kids.
My journey to the States was very calm. I didn’t have to experience any sexual abuse or
any other kind of abuse. But I do remember having to walk day and night in order to make it to
the border.
Elvira: Mm-hm alright um thank you for that. Um number seven is: when you first came to
America, did you experience any culture shocks?
Ana: I did experience a culture shock. When I came to the States, I noticed that women in
America were so independent. That they’re able to live on their own, able to have jobs, able to
have cars, and careers — something that I did not get to experience back home because I never
had to work outside of my home. Coming to the States I was unable to experience that
emancipation. I immediately found Yocelin’s dad and that dream of mine was not fulfilled —
becoming independent and things like that. Basically, I brought that custom from my own
country to my marriage here in the United States.
Elvira: Gotcha! Okay um, number eight is: do you remember the first thing you saw when you
came to America?
Ana: I saw a restaurant. I also came across this park that’s located in D.C.

�Elvira: Cool. Alright. It’s so cool that you remember that far. You really have good memory.
Yocelin: Yeah, she does.
Elvira: Okay, number nine: what was your first job and how long did you work there for?
An: My first job was being a dishwasher. I had to wash a lot of dishes and the manager took
advantage of the fact that I didn’t have many proper skills or any working skills so he demanded
that I wash this huge boiling pot. And because I told him no, it’s too hot, I’m gonna burn my
hand, he decided to dismiss me. I lasted for less than a year.
Elvira: Wow, he was very petty! What?
Yocelin: He was, but luckily her aunt was able to go back to the restaurant and I wouldn’t say
sue the guy, but she was able to get some money because of what occurred.
Elvira: I’m glad she did.
Yocelin: Yeah.
Elvira: Alright, the next question is: besides Maryland, did you live anywhere else?
Ana: I have lived all of my 24 years since coming to the United States, in Maryland.
Elvira: Gotcha. Alright, can you tell me how you decided on coming to Maryland and what was
your first impression of the state?
Ana: When I first arrived in the States, I was staying at an aunt’s house that lived in Maryland.
And then, a year after, I met Yocelin’s dad who lived in Maryland, so that’s why I decided to
stay in Maryland. It’s okay, it’s not that I really like it, but it was kind of like it decided for itself.
Elvira: Gotcha. Okay um, can you tell me what the process was like for you receiving your
green card and your status as a legal resident in Maryland?
Ana: I already had my working permit and then I got married to Yocelin’s dad so he was able to
help me out with my residency and to get my green card. My process wasn’t that long.
Elvira: Alright, cool, um. The next question is: how often you travel back to El Salvador and
what is it like for you to when you go back to visit?
Yocelin: I actually know that question, well, the answer by heart. She hasn’t gone to El Salvador
since she came to the United States.
Ana: No, I haven’t gone.

�Elvira: Alright. Um, has there been a moment where you felt like the United States felt like
home to you?
Ana: I feel like this is my home because I have more benefits and more opportunities to better
myself and I plan on retiring here in the United States because I don’t have anything with my
name back home.
Elvira: Gotcha, okay um—
Yocelin: Oh wait, I think she’s going to get some chocolate, sorry. My sister has been bugging
her.
[silence cut out of recording]
Yocelin: Okay, my mom is here now. Hello?
Elvira: Yeah. Alright, mom, um okay. If you don’t mind, can you explain what you do now and
what your life is like presently in America?
Yocelin: That’s funny because we were having this conversation not too long ago.
Ana: This country is blessed because we’re able to have health insurance, we’re able to have
opportunities to certain jobs, opportunities to careers, opportunities to better yourself. And that’s
something you cannot find back in my home country. But of course, there’s still a lot of pressure
because I still have to manage a job, school, raising kids, but overall, it’s a blessing.
Elvira: Okay, um the next question is: what do you think is the most important thing you’ve
learned about yourself through your experience here and why?
Ana: What I’ve learned about myself is that I was able to get a lot of support from organizations
or from other women going through the same lifestyle or abuse. I love that when I’m ready, I’m
able to go and triumph on my goals without the need of anyone else but myself.
Elvira: That’s great, I love it. Um, the next question is: are there any traditions from your home
country that you still currently/or used to practice?
Ana: Whenever I eat, I have to make sure that I have my stack of tortillas. And making sure that
the house is clean and well taken care of.
Elvira: Great. Um okay, next one: is there anything that you miss from El Salvador that you still
think about?
Ana: I do miss my dishes from back home. They can’t compete with the dishes that they have
here in the United States.

�Elvira: No doubt! Home has the best food, I mean. There’s no comparison. Alright, um next
question is: was there anything that made you feel pressured to Americanize yourself?
Ana: Learning English. It’s something new to me so I did feel pressured to learn English.
Elvira: Yeah, I can feel that. Especially when you’re here as, I guess a grade school level?
Because I remember I was pressured to take ESOL in elementary and middle school, so I can
feel her feeling pressured to learn English.
Yocelin: Yeah, that’s true.
Elvira: Okay, next question is: did you speak any English before you came here?
Ana: “I don’t know.” That was the only thing that I learned, to say, “I don’t know.”
Elvira: Okay. Alright, um next thing is: do you think that being an immigrant and coming to a
country that’s not your own and living here, has that made you more accepting of people of other
cultures or other immigrants in general?
Ana: Yeah.
Elvira: Okay, um the next question is: do you feel like you had to push away your own Hispanic
culture or did you mesh both American and Hispanic culture?
Ana: I had to mesh my culture with the American culture.
Elvira: Do you mind giving examples if you have any?
Ana: I’ve never had grapes or lettuce when in El Salvador, so in my food, I mix grapes and
lettuce in my plate.
Elvira: Ooh, that actually sounds good right now.
Yocelin: Yeah, grapes and lettuce, it does.
Okay, she has this kind of like, stereotype, hang on.
Ana: Another one is that when I go grocery shopping, say Giant or Safeway, I like to, not stalk,
but to go behind someone that’s American and see what kind of things they get. I do this because
I’m thinking that this person knows a bit more of good things here in the United States than I do.
Elvira: Alright. But that’s actually kind of funny though.
Yocelin: I’ve seen her. It’s like we’re going down the aisle. “She’s getting almond milk, should
we get almond milk too?” I’m like “No mom! I don’t want almond milk!”
Elvira: That is so funny!

�Yocelin: It is. Or like if someone gets one of those plain cereal boxes, she’s like, “Oh wait, we
should get that too!” I’m like “No mom, I want something else.”
Elvira: Imagine her getting cornflakes because somebody else is getting cornflakes and you
wanted like cocoa puffs.
Yocelin: Exactly, and it’s funny because she has this notion, “Okay this person knows a bit
better than I do, so I’d rather just get what he’s getting.”
Elvira: Alright, um I have one more question after this one, and it is: what do you hope that
people take away from this interview of you telling me more about your country?
Ana: Coming as an immigrant to the United States, it’s never too late to start over and want to
better yourself. And you just have to put in that determination to do so.
Elvira: Wow, that is great! Alright, last question for your mom is um: is there anything else you
would like for me to add? Or you would like to tell me?
Ana: People in the United States who have better education treat others fairly, well, with the
people I’ve encountered. People who have higher education have treated me with more respect
compared to those that didn’t.
Yocelin: Yeah, that’s about it.
Elvira: Alright. I just wanna say thank you to your mom.
[redacted]
Ana: You’re welcome. I’m glad that I can help.
Elvira: So, this is the end of the interview with me, Yocelin, and her mom. She [Yocelin] was
helping me to translate what her mom was saying from Spanish to English. So, I’m going to end
it now. Again, thank you Yocelin and I’ll speak to you guys soon.
Yocelin: Alright, thank you. Enjoy the rest of your day. I’m glad we were able to help.
Elvira: Yup, Goodnight.
Yocelin: Goodnight, bye-bye.
Elvira: Bye.

This is the end of the interview with Elvira, Yocelin (translator) and her mom.
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                    <text>Transcript for Oral History Interview
Conducted for University of Maryland Course IMMR 400 – Spring 2020
Instructor: Dr. Robert Chiles
Interviewer’s (Student’s) name: Retu Domnic
Interviewee’s name: Nallathambi Domnic
Interviewee’s Country of Origin: India
Interviewee’s Current Residence: Denton, Caroline County, Maryland, United States
Date of Interview: April 28, 2020
Place of Interview: Denton, Caroline County, Maryland, United States
Introduction: This interview between Retu Domnic and Nallathambi Domnic goes in depth on
what the immigration process was like for Nallathambi Domnic and his family.
Nallathambi Domnic is a 52-year-old Indian American who was born in India on
September 23, 1967. He then moved to Bahrain in 1991 in order to provide for his
family back in India. He met his wife in 1992 back in Bahrain as they were
working for the same company. They then had their child in 1999 and migrated to
the United States of America in 2003. Nallathambi’s dream was provide the best
education for his child and he believed the American school system was the best.
He also wanted better job opportunities for his line of work which would be
possible in America.
Keywords: India, Tamil, assimilation, biculturalism, green card, visa, culture, Asia, race,
immigration, family, Indian, jobs

�Retu Domnic: My name is Retu Domnic and today I will be interviewing Nallathambi Domnic
who is an immigrant and also my dad. Can you please introduce yourself?
Nallathambi Domnic: My name is Nallathambi Domnic.
Retu: Okay, and we can go ahead and start with the questions. Um so, what was it like back
home?
Nallathambi: I am [part of] a family of six. I am the fourth member of the family, like uh after
my father’s retirement from a government company, I was the only bread winner
for my––the whole family, so I had to come out of the country to earn a living. So,
I was working in Bahrain for almost like 12 years then, then I thought I could
migrate to U.S. for the better fortune and prospects. Well, my daughter was born
in Bahrain, like so we left Bahrain around 2003 June when my daughter was 2 and
a half years old. The main reason for us to come to U.S. was uh for better
prospects and uh my daughter’s education because we were in the Gulf, the
education was not much to do after your high school graduation you have to look
for a new college elsewhere so that’s a reason we thought we could move to U.S.
Retu: So how was it possible for you to come to America, like what was that like?
Nallathambi: When my daughter was born in Bahrain, I just was browsing, that’s the
introduction of the new internet system, so I was just browsing all the companies
in U.S. in my field what I was working for. And uh I got an opportunity to just
apply for a few of them, maybe around 20 or 25. On that 6 responded and 3 were
very much interested in me, hiring. So, I just went through the process. During
that time one of my brother-in-law was in New Jersey who used to help me out
during the immigration process with the lawyers. Then um the––the company
which I came for, the—the boss was very accommodating and helpful in during
the process so it’s a long process to come to U.S. So, we have to file a H1B visa
to––other then––I mean to say it’s an employment visa to get into the country. So,
we applied, and it took almost 6 or 7 months to go through the process and I got it
approved. That’s––that’s the reason I’m here today.

�Retu: Okay, so what did you have when you first came to America, like did you have any like
money or like valuables?
Nallathambi: No when we started from Bahrain, we had to leave everything there. Like uh we
couldn’t bring much only rather than some U.S. dollars, like we converted
everything there and brought around $2,000. The rest we started from the scratch
here, all the housing and things like that when we [I] started new job. So, we
started from the scratches.
Retu: So, were you the only person working in your family at the time, when you first came to
America?
Nallathambi: Yeah, the visa, H1B is only granted for uh me, and my wife and daughter were
[my] dependent. In other words, uh it’s called H1B and the dependents are H4. H4
visa, the people are not eligible to work, so. And my wife was uh––she is a
master’s degree holder and uh unfortunately, she was not eligible to work. Um so,
she used to be my de––she was legally here, me and my daught––she and my
daughter, but my wife couldn’t work because of the immigration policy. For
almost ten years until my status––not status, I mean the immigration policy
changed, my wife uh couldn’t work legally anywhere. Being [having] a master’s
in accounts, she couldn’t—she got a job, but she couldn’t work legally. She used
to do all the voluntary work in the church, local community and she was doing the
tax preparation for AARP voluntarily without any monetary benefits. So almost
ten years, then uh like in around um 2014 or ‘15 I think the immigration passed a
law like uh that dependants can work like who are fighting for their permanent
residence, um and that is still uh on process like the dependents can work. So
there, after that only, Retu and my wife, Anne, got their work permits.
Retu: So, what was it like when you first arrived to America? You mentioned that your brotherin-law helped you? So, was he like a part of settling you in or how was it like first
coming here?

�Nallathambi: In 2003 June, I just landed in uh JFK, that was in New York, but my work was in
Maryland, Denton, Maryland. But I happened to meet my brother-in-law in the
airport who drove me to New Jersey. So, from there we used to commute because
initially we did not have a house, I used to just come and go on a weekly basis,
just see the places. First, eh I bought a––I got a room in a—in a Countryside Inn
for a week and I stayed there and uh go to work then slowly, slowly tried to get a
rented place where I work. Then finally after a month I moved my family here.
‘Till then they were living in my brother in law’s house in New Jersey. Uhm.
Retu: So, when you settled down in Denton did you join a community of other Indians or did
you join a different community?
Nallathambi: In Denton we don’t have much Indian community, so we had our local church
community where we part––we have active participation and—and my wife used
to do lot of voluntary work in the church, so we got involved in the local
community as church.
Retu: So, do you wish that was different, like do you wish there were more Indians where you
lived?
Nallathambi: Yeah of course I wish, but fortunately or unfortunately I got a job in Denton,
Maryland (laughing), so I––because when I come to the country, I cannot just skip
job anywhere as I want because the immigration policy is such, I have to get a
sponsorship or an employer to sponsor me to get––‘till I get my green card. So, I
had to work for certain companies or a certain employer.
Retu: Is there anything you regret about that? Like coming and working for like one company?
Nallathambi: Yeah of course I regret because, usually we like to live in a––with our own
community, like the Indian community, but unfortunately, I did not get an
opportunity to mingle because all I––if I have to mingle, I have to go drive out
like one and a half to two hours away, to just to get along with the Indian
community that was not possible every time. So yeah, I do regret for coming and

�joining in Denton, Maryland (laughing). And I also regret that my wife, uh being a
master’s graduate, could not be employed uh to support me (clears throat) for
almost ten years she was just doing some volunteer work in the church and
helping the local AAR––AARP for the tax returns and all she used to do in the
library. Other than that, there was no monetary benefits, which was difficult when
a child like Retu was growing up, like she couldn’t do much in a monetary, only
my earnings were the only thing, it was tough for us because just we moved from
another country, and we have to start from the scratch with one employment we
had really a tough time but we just managed.
Retu: Do you think if Retu would have grown up with the Indian community that she would
have grown up differently? Or like––
Nallathambi: Yeah, of course she would’ve gone different uh ideas and getting along with
friends because now she is isolated when she meets any of our Indian friends,
where she has to get into the groove to learn more things because whatever we
learn at home is different from the community. So yeah, she was really lacking of
that kind of uh involvement with the community, yeah.
Retu: So, do you want your child to assimilate into American culture, keep your roots, or both?
Nallathambi: I like to do both, as Retu is doing from the beginning. My wife also had the same
idea of doing both. She put her in different ballet classes and the American dances
and also simultaneously she taught the Indian classical dance, Bharatanatyam,
which she is also learning and uh, as for the dances, even the culture we like to
mingle with other Indian community and the American culture also. So, I prefer to
do both for Retu.
Retu: So, did you ever visit or like go back to your home country?
Nallathambi: Yea the H1B visa its uh—it’s uh, validity of the visa is like six years, so within
that six years, the employer has to file for a green card, the permanent residence,
so through the employment process. Then in the meantime, once it’s approved

�then I could stay longer, so during my fourth year, almost––first, every three years
we have—like for six years term, like three years we have to renew our visa, the
H1B. So, we have to go outside the country to stamp the visa and come back. So
that’s what I did like in 2007, ‘06 I think, April, we had to go out of U.S. to India,
to get it stamped for the renewal. So, I filed the renewal from the old company,
and I left the country, so the papers were in the immigration for the renewal
process. So, once I went to India my––the old boss where I was working for, he
withdrew the petition because he ran out of business so unfortunately, he has to––
the business was not going good, so he was rel––he was uh liable to me, like when
I come back, he has to give an employment. He was selling—wanted to sell the
company so he withdrew the petition which I filed for. That if he would’ve done
here, I would’ve gotten another job and got a sponsorship but since I left the
country, I––I––there’s no means of coming back because the visa was expired, I
was there for the renewal to stamp the new visa on the passport and come back.
So, when he withdrew the petition, I––I got stuck. I couldn’t come back, so I had
to look for another. Because Retu was studying at the time, she had just uh
finished her schooling in April, and we had to come back for the next uh year,
beginning like before like from August or something, but we couldn’t come
because I was not having a job then I found a job in New York, through one of my
friends and I uh got it. So, the immigration process took almost six/ seven months
to get it approved. So, finally we came back on 2007, February. We left the
country on April 2006 and came back around 2007 February. So almost seven
months we were in India, just doing the––getting a job and filing for the
immigration. So, it was a tough time for us, because whether we are coming back,
we were not aware, we were not sure of it. So finally, we came back in 2007
February.
Retu: Does that make you frust––frustrated with like the whole immigration process?
Nallathambi: Yeah, of course uh it was uh, too much frustrating because I got a job, but the
paperwork took––filing through the—through attorney to the immigration, it took
almost seven months to get. Because the employer said it’s okay, I—I have a job,

�but to go through the process it almost took seven months to get it approved.
Yeah, it’s really frustrating because uh I was not working for seven months, I
couldn’t work there or here, so it was tough time for me and my family.
Retu: So, do you think you working in New York for that amount of time had an effect on your
family?
Nallathambi: Yes, of course because I used to come home only on the weekends, I couldn’t do
much for the support the family, just only earn. All the things was taken care of by
my wife for the daughter like schooling, uh going taking her around for all this
community work and things like that. It was tough on me, just being there for the
whole week, coming only for the weekend. And also, it took a lot of toll on my
wife’s health too. She couldn’t––that’s the reason we lost her. She used to care
more for the family and do stuff and don’t––did not care much for her health, and
wouldn’t say anything that she had issues, because of the situations. Yeah, I wish
uh if the immigration policy was good when we come to the country, we can go
anywhere as we want to work. We were lacking on––I was lacking on that. So, I
couldn’t come look for loc––another job locally where I could commute every day
from home. I––I stayed in New York for the job. That’s the reason like uh, it was
tough for us the whole family for almost ten years ‘till we got the green card.
Retu: Would you ever want to migrate back to India?
Nallathambi: No, not at this point because when we came here uh my wife was––the second
reason to come here one was my wife was having breast cancer when Retu was
like two years old. And uh she had a mastectomy on her left breast. Then we
thought we could do for a better treatment here, so that’s also another reason to
come to U.S. Yeah, she was doing good like every year we used to have a
thorough check up but uh another time, like around 2013 she had another
lumpectomy in her other breast and yeah. It was tough for us like uh whenever
these things happen, and finally in 2000––2019, September, she––we lost her.
Unfortunately, she had another, the cancer had spread all over her body and it was

�so severe and she was under treatment but we never expected this would happen,
but unfortunately, we lost her and at this point I don’t think I could migrate back
to India, because with all this situation we came across here, we like to live here.
Retu: So, if you didn’t have your green card and your like permanent residency um and you
were still under H1 visa would you––would it be different like then would you
want to migrate back?
Nallathambi: Yes, of course because no point in just staying every––working for three, three
years extension because it costs more money for the renewal and also its very
tough to like with the salaries we have, unless we have a green card or permanent
resident, yeah.
Retu: So, do you feel you are treated unfairly in America because of your race?
Nallathambi: Uh yeah, I feel sometimes because, of course, I’ve been treated differently but
indirectly, in other words like uh I did my degree back home, I didn’t do my
education here and it all matters here because after I got my green card I was
trying to apply to a lot of companies for the same pose what I worked for, but
there are lot of vacancies around but you know it all depends, like it’ll come to the
final phase of the interview and they’ll drop you off because I don’t have a
education here. I did only, like back home, all my educations are––since I didn’t
do that’s a––I feel that’s the main point for me to be dropped off, or so I am
lacking with that kind of situation, so yeah, I do feel that. Its uh––since I have
been come from India it all matters. Uh they say it’s like uh, it’s, what to say, like
yeah. I feel the discrimination is still going on. In my case I could really feel it
because of the employment. Uh everywhere I go I really been treated that. I don’t
know how long, but now I have been in a better place to work.
Retu: Other than like getting jobs, have––have you experienced like getting treated unfairly like
in everyday life?

�Nallathambi: Yeah, everyday life, actually even the job I say, like I—I am from the––I was the
project manager in a sign company where I worked, all my years almost 20, 25
years, but now I work for a retail company because I have not been given a job,
like what I was, in the local companies where I live around.
Retu: That you are qualified for?
Nallathambi: Qualified for. I am not getting it so I have to go to another field, start from the
scratch, it takes lot of time and effort to come back and start a new job but
situation is there, that’s what uh––
Retu: So along with that, um your wife, was she––like her education was it like banking?
Nallathambi: No, she was basically an accountant, master’s degree––master’s in accounts but
she also, the same way I’ve been treated, like wherever she goes, “Oh you have a
beautiful like education,” “You are qualified,” but when it comes to the final
thing, they say, “We are sorry,” because it’s all about––it’s kind of a
discrimination because they don’t give a job since she has not done her education
here. And finally, she ending up getting a job as a bank teller being an accountant
so that’s really unfair, but what to do, we have to survive, we have to get a job so
she was working there for almost four years.
Retu: So, in the future, do you think like things will change and people will not be discriminated
against?
Nallathambi: Yeah, of course I do believe because it all depends on the immigration policy
because once the people come to know about––because nobody’s aware of this
kind of situation, locally. Unless if we’re in of course in New York City or Jersey
or Washington, Baltimore, you see people coming under H1B on a regular basis,
people are aware, but locally, like Denton, Maryland nobody is aware what is
H1B. So, unless people come to know what we are, because they think that we are
just coming to the country and getting their jobs, it’s not like that. We have been
qualified and we are––H1B is a speciality occupation job, so immigration will not

�just approve a job, or we come here just like that. They––it goes almost six, seven
months for the process. So, they filter all the things and then give an approval. So,
when these things come up to the higher level, I think everybody comes to know
what we are, and the discrimination automatically goes down and people respect,
it’s not a kind of respect, at least we could get along with people freely as the
others do.
Retu: How did you hold on to your culture or like what have you done to hold on to your
culture?
Nallathambi: Just doing the basic as we did from the childhood. There’s nothing new for the
culture to, we have already been used to it. So, we just came here like ten years
back, but only thing we tried to––me and my wife tried to implement all these
local, like the culture towards Retu because she was growing as a kid, uh the more
thing is we used to take her to a lot of Indian um gatherings and friends and
families we move around and also watch the international channels from the––the
back home channels to keep her more uh involved in the cultural activities. And
also teaching her the cultural dance which she is now doing uh every year recital
on that uh dances, so.
Retu: So, finally, what do you hope people will gain from your story?
Nallathambi: Yeah, the main thing people will come to know is like the process of the legal
immigrant and the illegal immigrant. As we know, in America there are so many
illegal people coming to this country. And once they get a case filed on their
name, and within like three––two to three months they get their all facilities like
food stamps, medical, everything is government––okay, of course they pay back
when they get a job, but—but legally when people come in, there are so much
restrictions. We don’t have any––only thing we get is salary we get paid for the
work we do. Apart from that we don’t get any benefits like uh especially for the
dependents, even if they are sick or anything, we have to go on our own to get
medical facilities and stuff like that. But now, of course things have changed. I’m

�talking about like ten years back. It was so tough, we did not have any insurance
in the company, we were not given. So, when we come here, we just work and
take––and we pay taxes as a regular local Americans do, but—but uh the benefits,
we don’t have anything as an immigrant. We’ve gone through a lot. Because with
one salary, it was not enough for the whole thing to go. Um it was really tough on
us. With my story, I just conclude saying that in future maybe the immigration
policy can be more friendly towards the immigrants. Thank you.

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